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Runs apps in a web browser. I can second this. V 17 is a net improvement when coming from v 16 and we have to salute FMI for this notable exception: the left-outs in the server GUI. If marketing touts ease of use ahead of anything else, closing the compatibility gap with a new OS version within 3 months should be part of the planning. If not, a disconnect between marketing and engineering becomes obvious. I do not think that a three months period is cool.
There might be reasons for this - but it's not cool because many people are waiting for new Mac's I would also expect that FileMaker Go 17 is allready ready for the new 11" iOS devices - they are not but this is a minor problem, it's just the screen size that differs a bit. Not only the missing [operators]. I have a very strange behavior in custom fonction windows too: Every click leaves a blue mark.
Don't upgrade??? Which is somewhat of a shame. Same with my 13" MBAir. Louis, be happy, you can read the text. From my side, I got the most part of time blank screen. This is not my case, nor is FMP As far as plugins are concerned, this is not possible in all cases. So I'm forced to deliver a runtime solution to it but no way to plot a graph in the Runtime version of FileMaker unless you add a PlugIn.
Same for another more vertical application that requires the use of RSA coded headings, this is not a fantasy, it is the law for this application to be approved by the tax authorities. It is still surprising that five and a half months after Mojave's first rush, an Apple branch is not able to deliver a version that works properly on Mojave. Personally, I tried the first beta version of Maojave from June 12th. I mentioned this fact on a thread, the only reaction FileMaker was a threat on the pretext that I exceeded the guidelines of Apple DNA about beta softwares.
Again, I got the impression as I right now that FileMaker does not care about the advice of developers and users. Next year we will have the same state, in May a new version 18 of FileMaker that will be not compatible with the next version of macOS. I'm testing another environment like 4D to do the same thing as FileMaker. This is a huge investment that I made by learning how to use and then develop on FileMaker and I am very disappointed by the lack of engagement of the FMI with members of its community.
We got quite some customers running FM For some of them, going to 17 is planned, for some of them that's not possible for several reason.
I also got virtual machines, besides of the startup time really fine, fast and smooth enough for FileMaker. But not enough space on the 'Air' or on the touchbar MacBook. Mojave VM takes nearly a gig's Excellent machine with crisp display. Definitely true that budgets and resource allocation play a significant role in this. Budgets and resource allocation reflect priorities and when I see idiotic videos that must cost a lot of money I can't help but reach the conclusion that marketing is winning those turf battles.
It is completely illegal, and rightly so, for Apple to give any of its subsidiaries a competitive advantage! It is not true to say that FileMaker is the only application with compatibility issues.
Some never will! This is a major Os release, there are bound to be some wrinkles! The blog post certainly does not explicitly say "bury this in the community where only the most devoted users will see it" but it seems to be evident between the lines.
Also, it is worth noting that since September 24 the blog post has had only 25 comments where as this one began 2 days ago and already has triple that number.
Thanks to your reminder about it, I now recall reading it and advising some of my clients to hold off until further notice, and the leaders of my local user group mentioned that the consequences are more serious for Server than for Pro. As to the number of engineers, perhaps you're right that engineers is too much to expect.
If that's true, I'd like to start the bidding at The quality of some of the responses here shouldn't be overlooked. People complain about 17 being unusable in Mojave, which is not true. Lots of noise that doesn't contribute to the discussion.
As far as the number of employees, I think guessing veers into the "speculating" category that we're asked to refrain from in the forums. I am good friends with many people at FMI and I don't know how many. I don't worry. I know they're working hard to make the platform perfect for us. We are in a cycle that will eventually be broken, because it always happens in IT, particularly as business and large organisations will not accept continous change, there will be a backlash and the likes of IBM and SalesForce, who have publicly been announcing their adoption of Macs, will kick back and demand stability and continuity.
Apple will need to decide if it is only interested in consumers or leave business to Microsoft and Google, Linux or some new upstart as they did with servers. Microsoft appear to have got it, with weekly announcements of new features gradually released within Office No fanfare, no version change, no backwards compatibility issues, just a quiet announcement of something new.
AVLA gives FileMaker the same opportunity if they choose to take it, rather than an annual cycle of bug fixes and no new functionality. Currently, we have about 6-months opportunity to use the current versions of Mac OS X and FileMaker before the cycle starts again. We have no responsibility or influence over these, many are in non-English languages.
Even solutions that rely on browsers are not immune from compatibility issues, Safari v12 removed NPAPI, as did Chrome before, that has broken many things until they get fixed. Yup, higher complexity for us, not our users and cost, but none of the day-to-day issues being raised above. We do feel the pain expressed here, but eventually the industry will wake up and smell the roses. Citing a famous sci-fi movie android: this is madness! We came to the point were botched OS updates turn devices into bricks.
So based on the current schedule Since a patch is expected this month. You are of course expecting the patch to fix the issues and not introduce new issues as has happened in the past disappearing scripts.
Personally I've been running Server 17 on Mojave without too many issues except for remote user counts not being released. I haven't done any major development work in 6 months as I'm waiting for things to settle down before I incorporate new UI schemas.
I enjoy developing and exploring now ways to utilise FM for our Business processes. But I will not complain to much after 6 years of service without a breakdown.
I can't care less than I do about not having metal on a machine which will run Filemaker Server for its whole life, without a screen attached to it. This is not exactly what I call "without problems", but it does allow clients having problems with their old macmini servers who HAVE to buy new hardware to get the latest MacMini , install High Sierra and run FMS 15 on it.
Our clients do not care about having the latest OS from Apple. What they care about is to be able to replace a dying - worn out - old - machine with a new one and have exactly the same stuff they had working the same way they are used to. Because for them Apple is a hardware company and Filemaker a software company. And this simple truth goes often forgotten. You're welcome.
Only a couple extra steps, since recovery mode is required for reinstallation anyhow. If there is any solace, WebDirect is compatible with Mojave If there's one thing that OS upgrades generally don't break, that is functionality of the web. Has the time has come to build for webdirect and ios only? That might be the road happiness. As mentioned elsewhere, we have a couple few?
We've now disabled the Mac OS upgrade notifications. FMP 15 is installed on those particular Macs and seems to be working fine, so they will stay there for now. The next version will be 17 unless our test group meets problems, then it'll be This is business, not "arts and crafts" no offense intended to artists and these non-synchronized version cycles are costly. As developers, we need to run older versions - as long as there are customers who are running those.. We do have VM's, but it's easier to work directly on the os of the machine, especially under macOS Windows is better, faster, will startup fast,.
It was me who put the 3 months statement. There is no problem with the fact that these things require work and work takes time. Then there is a target audience called 'citizen' developer'. People without an admins knowledge. For everyone and especially for a less tech-savvy audience, those incompatibility issues must be clearly advertised at the places the go to look. Otherwise they get caught between Apples' and FMI's marketing steamrollers who both say: just use it, just go for it.
Its all easy and hassle-free. Well, at times it is not, because of the compatibility issues. To be clear: the problem starts with the OS vendor. FMI has limited power over this. But: the right information at the right time at the right place prevents people from getting trapped and is good customer care. Again for a point of perspective, Microsoft broke their own software as per my original post. Their own update broke their own software and their response and eventual resolution was that a resolution would be released in 2-months.
In other words, anyone using their own software, that they broke, had to go without for 2-months. Thank goodness the community within the above link saved the day. FileMaker are at the behest of Apple, who keep changing things without any continuity consideration, which has always been the case.
It is ironic that we have no Windows compatibility issues. By the way, this was delivered today and I've already found a really good use for it:. We're introducing a new syncing model for sharing calendars in Outlook for Mac. These changes will bring improved reliability and performance of calendar sharing in Outlook for Mac based on the use of REST technology.
This message is associated with Microsoft Roadmap ID: Older hardware? VMware ESXi 6. Many OS options there! And some older Macs can support various Linux distros - great tutorials a Google search away.
I really appreciate all the discussion that this has generated. Yes, it started out as a rant because I wanted the discussion to start and was hoping for exactly what has happened. Generally, a very civil discussion on the state of things and others' frustration with the delay in the updates. I have read each and every response, and I have been thinking about them all weekend through today.
I have come up with a few things that I would like to throw out for consideration by the community and FMI if you are reading this. I'm just thinking about FileMaker for the next 20 years. I think as a community we need to keep an eye on FileMaker Today, Next Week, Next Year and when we build solutions for our clients, how long we can make them work and last.
Until then I will sleep well, thinking about your post. I'll report back. This is one of the great benefits of going to DevCon. You can sit and talk with people like Clay one of the primary developers of the Draco engine , and other engineers.
You can hear about the vision, what they are working on, and also as important, why they are not working on other things. This year, it was talked about, the underlaying technology.
They are make a large shift. The idea is that they can switch out the technology under the hood, and nothing changes for us. But it allows for both performance, and faster shifts when technology changes. It's a long term plan. One similar to other areas of the platform that have already seen massive under the hood changes.
We are already starting to see the benefits of changes like that. We will also see more as new stuff is introduced into the platform. The development methodology is not terribly relevant to the product. FileMaker's testing process is fairly extensive.
That is the reason it takes so long. They do the beta testing, and go through the whole process. Then when the gold master is updated, they do it again. And when the final shipping release happens, they do the process again.
That would have caused some serious for many software platforms. I'm available should you have any questions. Feel free to reach out via PM. Good call on the 8GB, much more cost effective to upgrade with 3rd party chips.
Another strategy, should you buy additional units, or require more storage, is to use external NVMEs Thunderbolt 3 compatible enclosure. Thank you jormond! This is valuable information. All this is invisible to those who did not attend DevCon.
One important learning: you can have problems, delays. Be proactive in your communication. People customers will support you in any way they can. The worst thing to do is keeping silent and leaving people in the dark. They don't have the time to do it in the Roadmap video, though it does show kind of where they are headed. They are definitely in a hard place. They are being more transparent, and it's been great.
At the same time, publishing the info that I was able to glean during presentations, and side conversations with FMI staff, requires a lot of time. The more people they hire to what is essentially marketing, the fewer people they can have on the engineering team.
So, for us, it's a toss up. We want more info, we want it easier to find, but we also want them working on bug fixes and new features to keep the platform moving. I don't envy that position. We try to help as much as we can. They are open to sharing more with us, and being more involved watch the DIGFM recent meetup , but that won't likely happen until after this next release cycle. As I'm reading the replies to this discussion, a pop-up appears on the screen:.
As mentioned either in this thread or other related ones, we're living in the golden age of FileMaker as far as I'm concerned. They've never been more open about what they're doing now and what they expect to do in the future. I can imagine that no one has boring days at FMI. Hope they will maintain a reasonable ratio between engineers and marketing workforce. My sports was rowing and we had this joke:. Boat race day. Boat 1 is manned by 8 rowers and one coax.
Boat 2 is manned by 8 coaxes and 1 rower. Who wins? I salute them for having opened up. My guess is that communication can still be improved. Good points, I agree, but I wanted to add a few thoughts from how I have managed OSX on networks for companies in the past, mostly because you will be less stressed if you avoid it instead of fighting it.
I have managed MAC's on networks for years, really I do not release the newest OSX until at least 6 to 9 months after it has been released. I do this because I just do not have time to trouble shoot their inconsideration when releasing a platform that will not work with other applications they also own or for that matter a third party may own, not to mention any potential security threats that have not been found yet. I have often thought that the new OSX releases should be bi-yearly with major updates to the existing ones yearly.
Really IT should not be releasing any OSX or iOS major releases yet, they should still be testing them out in their own environment before they hit anyone else. While I share your frustration that FileMaker Pro 17 isn't yet compatible with Mojave, I would like to make a few points:.
I also use FMP 17 with Mojave, and it too seems to work fine. I had some initial issues with older plugins, but updates remedied that. I don't use Mojave on any of my FileMaker Servers, and have always been slow to update server OS anyway, out of caution.
I use high-end digital audio software Pro Tools on one of my Macs, which is still running High Sierra. Every time a new OS is released, Avid Pro Tools' owner company stresses that Pro Tools users shouldn't update until they've had a chance to certify that Pro Tools will work with the new OS, and if necessary, they release an update.
Pro Tools, like FileMaker, isn't yet certified to be compatible with Mojave. A little, but I'd rather know going in, instead of suffering through having to downgrade the OS. My guess is that FMI has hit significant obstacles which have prevented them from releasing a Mojave-compatible update; I assume they're vigorously working on it. Even though Apple Inc. Having run a FileMaker hosting company for 20 years, and having been a loyal Mac user for 33 years, I've learned to be patient with OS updates and application updates.
Nobody's going to die if I don't update a server's OS; nobody's going to be in danger if I don't upgrade a server box Because people spend money and get faster cars, faster internet, faster everything and expect to squeeze more life and action and professional results from a single minute, and this HW-SW combo just does not deliver it.
I think it is a stretch to put it out there as a universal fact, so it'd be good if we qualify these things and provide more specifics. The FM platform is just that: a platform. How it behaves is largely dependent on how we use it. My experience is not that things are slower than before for instance.
I think both you and your clients are really going to like FM on the new Mac minis. Lightyears ahead of the previous models in every dimension. I recommend working with them to upgrade their solution to FMS 17, to ensure maximum stability, security, and performance. Regarding pricing.
On the receipt, Macs and iOS devices are often more expensive than their counterparts, but there are so many other expensive variables in play. OS licensing, reliability, support hours, user satisfaction, etc. Many enterprise customers are starting to realize Apple's significant value for their businesses. Check out this report. Recently, IBM — who have deployed nearly , Macs in the past two years — have provided concrete data to support this claim.
Plus, out of those tickets that are opened, only five percent of Mac users end up requiring an in-person visit. PC boasts a troublesome 27 percent of tickets that require IT visits. While these stats are for the largest Mac deployment in the enterprise, the trend applies to smaller organizations who add Macs to their environment.
Heads are spinning! Apple's focus on security and privacy have a lot to do with the fact that Apple, Inc. Their workforce is massive, and the IP technology they protect is Apple designs it's products for end-users, yes, but at the OS and internal hardware level, they're designing much of the architecture for the enterprise.
Good question. Apple is doing their best to ensure MacOS, and other products offer the best in security, performance, and reliability. FileMaker too! I want to be a little careful because for the most part I thought that the OS wars were over. I get a little antsy when people try hard to convince me that one OS is better than the other. I'm OS agnostic and will use the one that best fits the task at hand. An OS for me is not a life-style choice.
It's a tool. So for me: heads are not really spinning. People tend to use what make sense to them. It's when we get dogmatic that we tend to skew things and use something outside where it fits. I don't believe that corporations are evil or not evil. I do believe that they all have security front-most in their priorities these days and they all deliver that as best as they can. I may be reading the tone of this thread wrong but it seems to me that it is trying to prove that Apple products are superior in their security focus.
Which is not something I subscribe to. From what I see, all OSes are striving very hard to deliver security first. May be not everyone's cup of tea. It is not coincidental that leisure time became a luxury.
The OS and application vendors have no choice but keeping an advantage in the race between system makers and system breakers. And often enough, they have to catch up. This is live in the age of all things connected. Cranking out a major release every year with a batch of often immature new features is a questionable practise. Different approaches are possible. In the consumer world this is not much of a problem and keeps sales figures up.
In the business world which has significantly longer cycle times this causes problems and headaches. But who dares and makes the first step when the entire industry is riding that train? As a business owner and business consultant, it wouldn't hurt my feelings to slow down the release cycles a bit. Declaring an annual release feels pushed, and in practice, releases come before they're fully baked.
This is true of OS's and the applications we run on them. I'm pitching for rollouts that are not crippled by artificial time constraints.
Let's get the code stable before we throw it to at the users. I'm in agreement, to each his own. If only the millions of developers working on thousands of distributions of NIX, coding different packages all trying to accomplish the same thing could work together a bit more often.
Where they do, more innovation, performance, and security, arises. Where they do, true innovation, performance, and security, arise. That implies that anything else is false innovation, false performance and false security. Not trying to pick a fight here, but let's keep it clean and OS agnostic throughout. We're here to help people with the FM platform features. One of its most powerful features is that it is multi-platform.
So we can each have our own favorite platform without being made to feel that we're ignorant because the other platform is supposedly better. See more information about Outbyte and uninstall instructions. FileMaker is one of the most go-to apps for web admins who want to add a database to their website or intranet — with literally one click!
It allows web admins to create customizable databases without any programming skills or third-party apps needed. However, some users have reported Filemaker crashing since the Mojave update. This is what lonestarbuc posted in the FileMaker community:. Since the update, Filemaker Pro 14 will not open any files.
Still crashes. The program itself will open, but when I try to open files, they crash. Pro Tip: Scan your Mac for performance issues, junk files, harmful apps, and security threats that can cause system issues or slow performance. V14 seems to crash, V did crash under macOS Other users also reported having the same issue.
And this is not a new problem. Good luck, you're on your own. I am also deeply disappointed. I have been working with FM since it started and bought more than one version. I agree it is very bad policy not to inform customers to be careful when updating MacOS. So just now I am really thinking of finding something else, perhaps an open source database ,because I will not pay the same sum again for updating FM. Help, I have the same problem with Filemaker Advance Pro 12 I bought for many hundreds dollars 4 years ago.
Does this mean there is no other solution than through away the old one and buy the new version? There is no update for unsupported versions of FileMaker that will let them work on newer OS's. You can take a look at the FileMaker Pro 12 tech specs to see what 12 was tested and supported on when we supported it.
FileMaker Pro 17 Advanced does work on I have the same problem with crashing FM Pro Ive been using Filemaker since When I tried the link it gave me an enquiry to complete. In Code it said to say Hello.
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